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Montag, 19. März 2012, 20:23

M1904 Kavalleriesäbel ZELINKA

Dear friend, as promissed, i represent you an other Cavalry sword, from my collection.
All dimensions are standard.

Markings on the blade:
Regimental Stamp: 8.H.560.
Producer stamp on blade:
... Zelinka Fer..
hungarian crest


Hungarian crest on handle and basket


Scabbard regimental stamp:1HR
And to confuse you even more:) End of scabbard has Wn marking(date unreadable), and a letter "G" (not KG!!!):))

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Montag, 19. März 2012, 21:06

Dear Valentin !!!

Excellent sword. Especially for the Hungarian part of Monarchy ;) . The first time I see this Producer stamp. Is there some Ferenc Zelinka ?( !?!
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Grüße aus Kroatien

Chombe

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Dienstag, 20. März 2012, 19:10

I think i found the answer, see photo:)

It must be : Öz. Zelinka Róbertné Budapest ( Vidow of Róbert Zelinka Budapest)

What dou you know about Zelinkas?

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Dienstag, 20. März 2012, 19:41

Hello Valentin !!!

I found this picture too ( on oldswords site ), but this is unfortunately all what I know about this mark.
Perhaps this is a post-war production .... ?(
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Grüße aus Kroatien

Chombe

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Mittwoch, 21. März 2012, 16:30

Hello Valentin!
Thank you about information about Zelinka Róbertné Budapest and Róbert Zelinka Budapest. Do you suppose the regimental markings to be Honved or post WW1, what do you think about? Known is Johann Zelinka in Vienna (Joh. Zelinka Wien) (ca 1910/14) and the marking Zelinka Budapest. So I agree with Zlatko: this producer stamp Zelinka on your excellent M1904 is also new for me--eventuallypost war??
LG G.
A.E.I.O.U.

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Mittwoch, 21. März 2012, 18:56

What is the relation between Austrian and Hungarian Zelinka ?Maybe it is the same owner, but had in both country a company?

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Mittwoch, 21. März 2012, 19:14

Maybe it is the same owner, but had in both country a company?

This is what Zlatko and I have been concluding some time ago....
A.E.I.O.U.

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Mittwoch, 21. März 2012, 19:19

And here are both marks :P .
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Grüße aus Kroatien

Chombe

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Freitag, 6. April 2012, 13:38

Hello Valentin

So the scabbard is a definitely a Austro-Hungarian production for the jointly army - as you sure recognised due to the WN stamping.

For me, the "1" was overstamped. There was a different regimental assignment before.

However, a "must have" for every collector.

Servus

Alex